Day changed to 02 Oct 2010
09:26 <&__ar> using crf 15.5 for 720p
09:26 <&__ar> probably 16.5
09:26 <&__ar> for 1080p
09:27 <&__ar> theres a fair bit of grain
09:27 <&__ar> tried using less for the 720p
09:27 <&__ar> and i could spot the diff
09:27 <&__ar> so 15.5 seemed a nice medium
09:27 <&__ar> but thats mostly cause its downscaled
09:27 <&__ar> i dont think the 1080 will need that much
09:27 < DoomRavager> are you trying to keep or eliminate grain?
09:27 < shirohamada> kill it with mvdegrain. suddenly filesize drops 100%
09:27 <&__ar> keep
09:27 <&__ar> and it has banding everywhere
09:28 <&__ar> die.
09:28 <&__ar> you go kill your encodes
09:28 <&__ar> lol
09:28 <&__ar> i want the grain
09:28 <&__ar> the grain is done well
09:28 < shirohamada> no problem. ffdshow can add grain
09:28 <&__ar> nah i tried with gradfun
09:28 <&__ar> it looked fucking terrible
09:28 <&__ar> seriously
09:29 <&__ar> the grain the bd has
09:29 <&__ar> its very nice
09:29 <&__ar> removing it will just make the movie look terrible
09:29 <&__ar> thus why i chose to keep it
09:29 <&__ar> it keeps banding in check very well.
09:30 <&__ar> you can always download one of those chinese warpsharped encodes
09:30 <&__ar> if u want small size
09:30 <&__ar> and no grain
09:30 <&__ar> lol
09:30 <&__ar> they look like ass
09:30 < shirohamada> lol warpsharp
09:30 <&__ar> BUT THEY ARE SMALL MAN
09:30 <&__ar> :D
09:30 <&__ar> warpsharp is fucked.
09:31 <&__ar> if it was as good as photoshop unsharp masking filters
09:31 <&__ar> i would say lovely
09:31 <&__ar> but its not
09:31 <&__ar> its terrible
09:31 < DoomRavager> lol such chinese encodes exist?
09:31 <&__ar> DoomRavager: yeah
09:31 < shirohamada> useful for shit like spice and wolf first season jewray
09:31 <&__ar> though more often than not
09:32 <&__ar> warpsharp kills the colours
09:32 <&__ar> id rather have dullish edges
09:32 <&__ar> than ruined colours
09:32 <&__ar> personally
09:32 <&__ar> http://www.nyaatorrents.org/?page=torrentinfo&tid=161761
09:32 < shirohamada> i thought shit was fixed in awarpshar2 ?
09:32 <&__ar> pretty sure this is chinese
09:32 <&__ar> well it still ruins colours
09:33 <&__ar> the way it applies depth blur
09:33 < shirohamada> BDrip PSP-iPod touch 480x272 x264 AAC
09:33 < shirohamada> WHY
09:33 <&__ar> kills the chroma
09:33 <&__ar> and subsampled chroma + NO CHROMA
09:33 <&__ar> = terrible colours
09:33 <&__ar> lol
09:33 <&__ar> i dont personally like anything thats done with warpsharp
09:33 <&__ar> unless its very mild
09:33 <&__ar> or done staged
09:34 <&__ar> gradually
09:34 <&__ar> and then the original chroma is applied
09:34 <&__ar> over the filtered video
09:36 < shirohamada> damn can't fine that anbu tytania warpsharp
09:37 <&__ar> some warpsharping can be done alright
09:37 <&__ar> if its not overdone
09:37 <&__ar> thing is most encoders ive seen that use it
09:37 <&__ar> tend to OVERDO it
09:37 < DoomRavager> zx's eva encodes used "Some pixie, warpsharp & a tad of spatial smoothing" according to their nfo
09:37 <&__ar> fluff or mentar probably encoded it then
09:37 <&__ar> mentar uses warpsharp
09:37 <&__ar> but only very mildly
09:38 <&__ar> it usually looks nice
09:38 <&__ar> unlike a certain Kristen
09:38 <&__ar> for Coalgirls encodes.
09:38 <&__ar> overkill.
09:38 <&__ar> I don't have a problem with Warpsharp itself, only it being used stupidly by people.